‘NUMISNET WORLD’


Volume 13 Issue 6           Formerly published as the 'Tasmanian Numismatist' - Internet Edition' (Est. 1996)                   June 2008


 

Remember - be astute when you are handed change - not all the wonders of numismatics have been discovered yet - and they don't have to be shiny and new! This edition again features an assortment of  'trivia' that I think is of interest and I trust it will prove educational and entertaining to you as well. 

All or any prices quoted in articles in this newsletter, unless stipulated, are estimates only and they should not be considered to be an offer to sell or purchase the items mentioned or used as illustrations. Please note that the photoscans of numismatic items are usually not to size or scale, but - wherever possible - they are from the authors' own collection or the extensive picture library of the 'Numisnet World' - Internet Edition.

Any comments published in this privately produced newsletter do not necessarily reflect the views of the 'Numisnet World' (Internet Edition) nor its Editor.

Bearing in mind our public disclaimers, the Internet links selected by the authors of this newsletter are usually provided as a complimentary source of reference to the featured article in regard to: (1) Illustrations and, (2) to provide additional important information. 

We trust that this issue of the 'Numisnet World' (Internet Edition) newsletter will continue to provide interesting reading.

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'NUMISNET WORLD'

INTERNET EDITION

Edited by Graeme Petterwood. © 2008.

 

Being an inquisitive collector - a virtual 'magpie'  - well, at least a peruser of anything numismatic, whether it be shiny or different - has some advantage to me in this particular job as Editor. I suppose a certain amount of selfishness does creep into the selection of ideas for articles I write - but, if anyone cares to make a worthwhile suggestion I am always prepared to look at it - and if need be - assist in presentation.

Please accept my invitation to make a contribution if you feel you have something numismatically themed that may appeal to a general level of interest and fulfills our stated editorial guidelines - however, not every submission will be automatically accepted for publication if common courtesy and acceptable moral standards are not upheld or the subject matter is not considered 'generic' enough for this type of newsletter.

This is, obviously,  not a scientific-style journal - our object is to educate, certainly - but in an entertaining way for the average hobbiest collector.

 

Of course, we are not all granted immediate expertise on every subject we peruse - but we should be broad-minded enough to accept there are other people who have acquired that mantle over time - and we should be prepared allow some of those well established collectors space to present a mentoring forum for their knowledge to be passed on.  It is up to each of us to then build upon those foundations when we find a common interest..

As mentioned, on numerous occasions over the many years that this newsletter has now been published, we have tried to present all sorts of items that cover as many aspects of the hobby as we can - but, occasionally, we need to pause and recap a little to allow newcomers, to the wonderful hobby of numismatics, to catch up or even get a grasp of the basics. - I think that this is probably one of those times!

 

The Intrigue - and Enigma - of World Banknotes

by Graeme Petterwood 2008 ©

The 104 different nations, city states or monetary groups, listed below, are those from which I have managed to obtain, at least, one paper (or plastic) money sample for my accumulation - so far!  By careful selection, an interesting world banknote collection does not need to cost a fortune.

When I read the famous Krause Publication -  'Standard World Paper Money Catalog' -  it is very obvious that there are still a lot more to collect - but, personally, it  provides me with a great area of numismatics to work over - without it running dry - as it sometimes does if you specialize too narrowly.

Many of these notes are still very affordable and readily available - especially in the lower denominations - and most dealers have something of reasonable quality amongst their stocks - so, if you are into collecting world notes - pick the best you can afford - and, only those that satisfy YOU with their appearance.

 

A - Argentina; Australia; Austria.

B - Bahrain; Baku; Bangladesh; Batum; Belarus; Belgium; Bhutan; Biafra; Bolivia; Brazil; Brunei; Bulgaria; Burma.

C - Cambodia; Canada; Chile; China; Confederate States of America; Costa Rica; Croatia; Cuba; Cyprus; Czechoslovakia.

D - Denmark.

E - European Economic Community; Ecuador; Egypt.

F - Fiji; France.

G - Georgia; German Democratic Republic; Gemany; Great Britain, Greece; Guyana.

H - Hong Kong; Hungary.

I -  India; Indonesia; Iraq; Ireland; Isle of Man; Israel; Italy.

J - Jamaica; Japan.

K - Kazahkstan; Korea (North); Korea (South).

L - Laos; Lebanon; Lithuania; Luxembourg.

M - Malaya; Malaysia; Mexico; Mongolia, Mozambique; Myanmar.

N - Nepal; Netherlands; Netherlands Indies; New Caledonia; New Zealand; Norway.

O - Oceania.

P - Paraguay; Peru; Philippines; Poland; Portugal.

Q -

R - Romania; Russia.

S - Scotland; Serbia; Seychelles; Siberia; Singapore; Slovenia; South Russia; South Vietnam; Spain; Sri Lanka; Sweden; Switzerland.

T - Tahiti; Thailand; The Gambia; Tonga; Trancaucasia;  Turkey.

U - Ukraine; United Arab Emirates; United States of America; Uruguay; Uzbekistan.

V - Vanuatu; Venezuela; Vietnam.

W - Western Samoa.

Y - Yugoslavia.

Z -

 

  

If you ever choose to show your stuff to a non-collector visitor or friend, they are not to know that the old, but nice, crisp 1922 German 50,000 Mark banknote (shown above) you show them is one of a 'zillion' manufactured and was not even worth the paper it was printed on a few hours after release! 

However, a few good hand-fulls of some of those yesterday's money did make a good fire-lighter when a bit of paper was needed to get the old wood-stove going next morning to cook the cabbage - on which a basketfull of yesterday's notes was spent before the next issue arrived to replace them.

 

 

However, having been given, found or purchased - that piece of pretty paper is not the 'end all' for us - this is where our curiosity should have kicked in - and then we have a real story to tell our readers. (This article has a substantial number of Internet links that are considered to be good reference sources.)

Some of the places mentioned on some of the notes  are no longer in existence - or are no longer known by the name  shown  - they have become part of history; but that makes the 'detective story' so much more interesting to research - and to relate.

The story of Biafra, for instance, was one of hope then, ultimately, despair and tragedy. Refer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biafra

 

 

 

The first thing we notice is the overall design of the note - usually a 'picture'  of some sort - that is eye-catching in various ways - sometimes pleasantly, but, at other times, due to its  'ugliness'. The Banco Central do Brazil Cruzeiro note range issued between 1978 - 1981 fall into this latter category.

Personally, I find that these notes of denomination values 100 (illustration shown), 200, 500, 1000 and 5000 Cruzeiros are not  'comfortable' notes to handle - or to even look at for long - due to their 'upside-down' double portraits and vignettes.

 

If we can read the letters and numerals of another language we can often work out the area where the note comes from - but not always - sometimes, we can't even recognise the script nor even the numerals. Strange scripts leave us more than a bit bewildered so we look for other signs like emblems, icons or flags etc. - anything that helps us narrow down its origin. Occasionally, we run across very individual languages that we really have to think hard about - but many are slightly related to another or use words that are 'borderline'  - and that helps us put a 'place to start from' clue in our minds!

In this article I intend to show a few of these identifier clues to you - these won't be as comprehensive as found in a dedicated catalogue - but, one day, they just might be a dredged numismatic memory that was handy to have tucked away.

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

Top row: Great Britain 10 Shillings - issued 1955; Spain 100 Pesetas - issued 1928.

Second row: France 500 Francs - issued 1941 (under Vichy Government authority); Gemany 50 Mark - issued 1914.

Third row: Netherlands (Dutch) One Gulden - issued 1949; Italy 5 Lire - issued 1944 (featuring puppet King Victor Emanuele III)

Bottom row: National Bank of Switzerland 10 Francs - titled in 3 locally-used (French, German and Italian) languages - issued 1969

 

The main language and script  groups that we - of European descent -  use, are usually from a Romanized Europe based on the Latin script.

English, Spanish, French, German, Dutch and Italian are a few of the better known European colonial languages that have spread across the world - but there are lots more. Some have accent marks, of various types, above or under letters and that can be confusing and they are things that we could devote another chapter about. If you feel like browsing further - and have patience and a burning desire to know as many of the answers as possible look at this site.

Refer: http://www.pollycyber.com/howto/forlang.htm

It is of some interest, to linguistic scholars today, that some former  colonial nations - the Philippines, for instance - are now slowly amalgamating several introduced languages into one of 'common usage'. Most of the 'far eastern' countries that have had European invasion, or settlement influxes, eventually altered the native inhabitants' way of life and culture - and, often, the use of the introduced script or language is used as a commercial and economic tool on a daily basis - but the country may still retain an original dialect or written language for 'street use' amongst the indigenous population.

 

The other more frequent script groups we will come across in numismatics will probably include:

Cyrillic 

Cyrillic is in use in places like Russia and its other satellite countries, like Kazakstan, as well as in the old Balkans areas - where it originated and, of course, Greece. Refer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_alphabet

It is of some interest to know that Peter the Great changed the Cyrillic numerals to the Hindu- Arabic style in the early 1700's.

Refer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_numerals  (This site also gives access to some other non-European indigenious numeral systems)

Early Russian 'revolutionary' currency was printed in several of the more cosmopolitan European languages as well as Russian. Some minor variations are creeping into the Cyrillic alphabet used outside of Russia when the local language needed a more direct symbol for a local pronunciation.

Rarely is English - or any other Western European script - now featured on notes from these Cyrillic regions and even the modern notes of the  'autonomous' countries within the new Russian Federation (or the old Soviet bloc), use Cyrillic script when indicating the secondary 'national' languages on the notes.

 

Recommended site: http://www.friends-partners.org/oldfriends/language/russian-alphabet.html  (This site has a sound element so turn on your speakers for accurate Russian pronounciation.)

 

 

 

 

Top row: Russia 500 Rublei (Rubles) dated 1919 - issued 1920

Second row: (Former) Yugoslavia 5000 Dinari (Dinars) issued 1985

Third row: Kazakstan 10 and 5 Tyin notes issued 1993 (100 Tyin = 1 Tenge = 1 Ruble)

Bottom row: Greece 1000 Drachmai - issued German Occupation 1942. (Greek Alphabet below)

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z

Arabic

Peculiar to the Middle East, most nations in this area feature similar cursive scripts but with subtle variations developed over the centuries.

Often, English will be used on the reverse side of these notes for ease of international identification - this is probably partly due to colonial influences during the 19th. Century. It is important that we also realize that Arabic script reads backwards - as far as  we are concerned - and capital letters, medial (middle of word) final (end of word) and isolated letters are all different shapes.  That's 4 different possibilities we need to consider when deciphering a note..

This is a very complicated script to read for amateur numismatists of European descent. The numbers are simple in comparison - just read across the page - like ours - except keep in mind the various local interpretations (shapes) of some numbers.

Recommended site: http://www.omniglot.com/writing/arabic.htm

 

 

 

 

 

Top row: Iraq 250 Dinars - Saddam Hussein - issued 1995; Jordan One Dinar - King Hussein - issued 1992.

Middle row: Variations of Arabic numerals (also Burmese numerals - refer One Kyat illustration below)

Bottom row: Egyptian One Pound - issued 1977; 

 

Sanskrit, Hindi and Thai-Lao

 Indian sub-continental, and nearby areas, have similarities - but are different enough, to show their seperate development over time.The language groups extend across a fair swathe of Australia's northern neighbours, however, economic rationale has seen English being adopted as a second major language, and script group, in more developed countries such as India and Pakistan..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Top row: Reserve Bank of India 5 Rupees - not dated (but issued c.1980)

Second row: Thailand 20 Baht - issued c.1953; Cambodia 100 Riels - issued c.1957

Third row:  Laos 100 Kip - issued c.1957

 Fourth: row: Khmer Numerals which are similar in most of the Thai-Lao countries

 

Burmese (Myanmar) and Tibetan

Due to its geographical location, the Burmese language is a polygot mixture of Sino-Tibetan with a large blend of Thai and other local minor  varieties such as Kmer and Mon thrown in. Both written and spoken Burmese is very difficult to master grammatically - especially if you are a late learner or from a different language format background. It has 33 consonants and 14 vowels - plus lots of extra wiggles (diacritics) that change the pronounciation - and any spaces usually indicate the end of a phrase not just a word break.

Unfortunately, I do not have a Tibetan banknote to illustrate the article, but a sample of the numerals is shown below.

 

 

Burmese numerals

Top: Union of Burma Bank (now Central Bank of Myanmar) One Kyat - issued c.1972;

Bottom: Burmese (Myanmar) numerals

 

Tibetan numerals

Tibetan numerals

*Worth saving - Recommended References.

http://www.into-asia.com/thai_language/reference/numbers.php

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/burmese.htm

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/tibetan.htm

 

Sino groups

Another major group of scripts, that has 'colonial' overtones, are those used in China, Japan and Korea, which  have also sustained subtle 'shape' variations over time. The following is an extract from an article I wrote and published in May 2005 which may be of some assistance when identifying Chinese and Japanese numerals. The Chinese were extensive travellers in search of trade, during earlier dynsaties, and left their  business ideas and culture in certain areas they visited (or invaded).There are records of their huge armed 'tribute' fleets reaching Northern Africa and the Middle East..

 

 

壱   弐    参    肆    伍    陸    漆    捌    玖    拾    廿     佰    仟    萬

 

一    二    三    四    五    六    七    八    九    十    二十   百    千    万

 

 The table shows Chinese numerals from left to right: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 , 9 , 10, 20, 100, 1000 and 10,000

The Formal style (top line) is always used to signify denominations on Chinese and Japanese notes. The note issue dates often utilise the simple characters. (In regard to coins, the simple characters are more frequently used - and, in recent years, Western numerics are becoming the norm.)

 

The reason there are two rows of numbers is because the Chinese, in their wisdom, decided to simplify the Formal numbers used in official documents into a style which could be written rapidly in a commercial application. The top row is the elaborate style that is still used when circumstances warrant a certain amount of ceremonial politeness.

Some of the Simple numbers exhibit traces of the characteristics carried down from the Formal numbers.

To write a combination of numbers certain rules are applied

i.e. 25 = 二 (two) 十 (tens) 五 (five)  =  二十五

and, for 4,715 we would need to write 四 (four) 千 (thousands) 七 (seven) 百 (hundreds) 一 (one) 十 (tens) 五 (five) =  四 千 七 百 一 十 五

However, it starts to get a bit more complicated when really huge numbers are being used - but that is beyond the scope of this brief article.

An excellent site that you might like to bookmark for future reference if you are accumulating Chinese (or Japanese) banknotes is:

http://www.mandarintools.com/numbers.html

 

 

 

Top row: China 'Bank of Communications' - issued c.1935 - 10 Yuan and issued c.1937 - 5 Yuan notes.

(China had many private banks pre- WWII )

Middle row: c. 1930 - 'Bank of Japan' 10 Yen.

Bottom row: 1959 - (North) 'Korean Central Bank' 100 Won.

The Korean script has been cursive-stylized from Japanese and Chinese roots, but certain similarities are still noticeable, and the traditional formal brush-style is still used in more ceremonial instances of written address.  Refer: http://www.indopedia.org/Korean_numerals.html

 

The fact is that the world is overwhemed with different stem languages - the old 'Tower of Babel' thing! 

When I started doing some research on this subject I found hundreds of which I had never even heard of.  It was an ambitious original thought to include a heap of them in this article - but, reality bites hard at times like this.  After counting over 150 (and that wasn't including local dialects) that I considered important (and even more on one of the lists I was using - I think it mentioned something like 5000) - I decided that telling you was a lot easier than trying to illustrate this article with world examples. However, that doesn't mean that you shouldn't take a look for yourselves - you will be as fascinated as I am.

Good Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_language

 

Of course, the easiest way for me to show some of these 'different' similarities from some areas was by presenting several examples of banknote scans. The choice of notes I will have used, wherever possible, will be lesser known  - just to get away from the same old illustrations that we have come to expect. To save space, I have 'equalized' the size of some notes - so please be aware they will not be to size nor to scale to each other.

 

THE PRE-DECIMAL CIRCULATION COINAGE

OF NEW ZEALAND

CHECKLIST FROM 1933 - 1965

A Brief Report by Graeme Petterwood

 

During the last few years, which have seen major changes in some of the world's major coinages, I would notice spaces when  I checked my New Zealand coinage.  Dates slots that I never seemed able  to fill - although I must admit I wasn't working at it seriously until recently - and I still have a few to go.

After doing some numismatic homework, I now realise that New Zealand was late on the stage - as far as issuance of a national coinage and currency was concerned - in fact, it is only in the last 75 years or so that a definitive coinage has been available - and not every year has been represented.

Official British involvement in New Zealand didn't take place until about 1840 , even though Capt. James Cook had laid claim to the place back in 1769.

It was a claim that the British Government allowed to lapse for 70 years until it suited them to take it up.

The colony was slow to develop and was administered from New South Wales in Australia until 1852 when self-government was granted.

A considerable amount of Australian and New Zealand tradesmen's tokens (plus a few English ones that turned up with shipping) were non-official, but in regular use during the mid 1800's due to the continual coinage shortage.

The English (official) and Australian coins (acceptable for small transactions) were the mainstay for New Zealand until 1933  when .500  silver coins in denominations of: Threepence, Sixpence, Shilling, Florin (value 2 shillings), Half Crown (value 2 Shillings and Sixpence) were produced by the Royal Mint and introduced in New Zealand's name. The Bronze coinage of Half-penny and Penny denominations appeared in 1940.

The  reverse designs of the basic circulation range of coinage, including the bronze half-penny and penny,  remained constant from 1933 until 1965. (see below) Periodically, a large .500 Silver Crown coin (value 5 Shillings) was issued as a commemorative coin - the first was in 1935 and is known as the Waitangi Crown - it was a limited strike and examples are rare and valuable.

Subsequent Crown issues, in 1949 and 1953, are relatively common, but good examples still are still a nice little investment in top quality (Proof).

Whilst the tradesmen's tokens disappeared from circulation quite quickly once they were officially  'demonetized', the English and Australian Halfpenny and Penny  bronze coins continued to linger and circulate until 1940 when they were replaced with the dedicated New Zealand coinage.

During this whole period only 3 English monarchs' busts appeared on New Zealand coinage - however, in 1948, a slight alteration in the obverse text saw 'George VI King Emperor' changed to 'King George the Sixth'.

 

 

A trip back in time.

l. to r. -1953 Queen Elizabeth The Second; 1948 King George The Sixth; 1937 George VI King Emperor; 1933 George V King Emperor.

l.to r. - Tradesmen's Penny tokens: 1857 M. Somerville Penny; (N.D.) Milner & Thompson Penny; (N.D.) Henry J. Hall Penny.

 

It was my intention to attempt to obtain a sample of every New Zealand pre-decimal coin - within reason, (and, within the scope of my wallet, as well) - from 1933 up to 1965.  I'm afraid my wallet was the eventual casualty at the time I first became seriously  interested - but it is recuperating slowly..

 

However, after checking a few available lists - and drawing on the hard work of others before me - I decided to try and save our readers the same sorts of problems that  I had when re-arranging spaces in my coin albums .

For a start, I  have prepared a 'checklist' - of the pre-decimal issues - that may be of assistance with getting the older basics sorted out - this list will include some of the better known varieties but there are probably others out there just as there are in any other coinage, so leave a copy of end gaps - just in case.

 

New Zealand 1965 Circulation coinage set - issued by the N.Z. Treasury.

(Samples of the last of the New Zealand pre-decimal coins - a superior quality was issued with a Pink label.)

 

 

DATE

H. PENNY

    PENNY       

THREEPENCE

SIXPENCE

SHILLING

FLORIN

H. CROWN

CROWN

1933

*

*

         

*

1934

*

*

         

*

1935

*

*

           

1936

*

*

   

*

 

*

*

1937

*

*

         

*

1938

*

*

*

*

*

*

*

*

1939

*

*

   

*

*

*

*

1940               *
1941 *
1942               *
1943

*

            *
1944               *
1945               *

1946

              *
1947               *
1948               *
1949     * * *      
1950               *
1951               *
1952           * *

*

1953                
1954         * * * *
1955           * * *
1956           * * *
1957           * * *
1958           * * *
1959           * * *
1960           * * *
1961               *
1962               *
1963               *
1964            

*

*

1965

 

Set only

       

Set only

*
                 

 

NOTE

Included in the above are several varieties of which I am determined to find as well. Some of the more exotic ones attract a small premium in price.

Currently, I have a stash of older coins that I am now double-checking and I am confident that I will be able to get one or two others that probably escaped my attention in days long gone - like the 'one dot' 1942 Threepence - well I hope so!.

Pardon the greyscale contrast scan of my rather worn coin, but I needed to use it so the one dot in the proximity of the 1 of 1942 can be seen more easily. It is the matching dot at the end of the date that has gone astray!

 

Penny - 1945 with a 'burnished' finish; 1956 with a 'strapless' dress on QEII

Threepence - 1942 with only one dot before the word Threepence (sample shown left); 1955 with two dots on QEII shoulder; 1956 with 'strapless' dress on QEII.

Sixpence - 1957 with 'strapless' dress on QEII; 1965 with 'broken wing' on bird.

Shilling - 1942, 1958 & 1965  with 'broken back' on Maori warrior; 1962 (a) with 1/2 horizon, (b) with no horizon.

Florin - 1946 with 'flat back' on Kiwi.

Half Crown - 1950 (Die 1) - close Diamond, (Die 2) - far Diamond.

 

The decimal issues started in 1967 and, with the exception of the circular 50 cent HMS 'Endeavour' coin,  they were the same size as the Australian decimal coinage which was first released in 1966.  Since then there have been alterations to metal content and sizes -which we will discuss in a further article. The checklist for the more modern coins will be my next chore - I already have most of them. I do not intend to include Non Circulating Legal Tender.

The older 'large' style decimal coins seem to be readily available from Oz supermarket tills of late - I wonder why - I suppose being the same size as Australian coinage - plus the influx of New Zealanders here seeking a different lifestyle might be a reason - as well as the better exchange rate.

Slipping a few cheaper, similar-looking coins into the system is a world-wide occurence. You would be amazed what turns up in our local grocer's till.

 

Main References:

The New Zealand Coin & Banknote Catalogue (2007 Edition) - by Howard Mitchell.

Renniks Australian Coin & Banknote Guide - 13th Edition - by Dion H. Skinner.

 

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Recently, I received the following simple request, via a 'hotmail.com' email that may have originated anywhere, that was illustrated with a series of 8 scans  - showing various aspects of  5 pre-WWII German and Russian banknotes.

Dated 30th April, 2008

"dEAR EDITOR,
I HAVE THE FOLLOW ANTIQUE NOTES. CAN YOU ADVICE, IS THERE ANY VALUE FOR SUCH CURRENCIES 
rEGARDS, H....  M......."

 

On checking,however, I found that at least 6 of the scans displayed, could be identified as  notes from my own personal collection which had been previously used as illustrations, in this newsletter, on several occasions.

I am not naive enough to think that these things won't happen - particularly if the correspondent does not have access to a scanner -  but, if the correspondent is implying, by his/her words that the ilustrations are showing something that he/she purports to be theirs -  then  I do get a little uptight and re-read things a bit more studiously.  

However, in this instance (on reflection - rightly or wrongly), I decided to give the correspondent the benefit of the doubt - in case the words he had written were not quite what he may have meant and I may have misunderstood the implication as well.  

Sometimes meanings do get lost in translation. Occasionally, I have - 'been there - done that!' -  so I'm pretty flexible about these things as a rule.

In this instance I could not see that a lot of harm would be done to me - but,  it could mean another viewer might be misled regarding the quality of the notes available, especially if the subject of purchase came about.

However, it also made me ponder about who may have actually 'owned' the other scans of the notes the writer had requested information about.

The other two notes shown were of denominations and similar types to that I have in my accumulation - but the scans were definitely not mine, according to the serial numbers. As far as I am concerned, fair useage of my illustrations etc. will usually be allowed - even if a request is not made in 'writing' (a courtesy email would be nice, however) - it is terribly hard to police these things - and once done its done!

I would like to think that a suitablly worded acknowledgement is added to whatever item that is being shown publicly, and that it signifies that the borrowed illustration is only to show the type. Insinuating that the scans shown are actually of the objects being discussed is not really an option!

My reply to this email is shown below (in red) - it was designed to educate the writer in the proper courtesy and procedure when using someone else's material without permission to illustrate his email - and it might get him to double-check on who he is forwarding it on to - before he hits the Send button.

Sadly, at time of writing, I still hadn't received a reply.

 

The scans shown below are mine - for illustration only - they not to scale. Some of these old notes are very large indeed and can only be shown smaller.

Explanations in italics are also mine, and, please note, that my illustration of Pick 182 is of the later 1945 issue (182b) Serial number C.00532451 w/out obverse u/print letter nor any reverse serial numbers - as I do not own a sample of the original 1933 issue. The earlier notes in this series have only 50% of the retail value of the 1945 issue, as they was issued in substantial numbers as Germany's economy was improving after the era of high inflation.

 

Whilst this note was not included in the email correspondence, it is also of interest that the 100 Reichmark (dated 1935) in this Reichbanknote reform series had the first underprint of the swaztika - replacing the value - on the front of the note. By 1936, until 1945, all German notes carried the Nazi emblem.

 

Pick No.   14a - Russian 500 Rubles (1912) Ab 163051

(Large note - the supplied scan showed some soiling with two heavy vertical folds)

Pick No. 182a - German 50 Reichsmark (1933) - B. 29377253  - (showing Face)

(The scan supplied is of a note issued in 1933 which, in this instance, has a large u/p letter 'L' printed underneath the signatures.)

Pick No. 182b - German 50 Reichsmark (1933) -  E. 33408798 - (showing Reverse)

(This scan supplied showed an original 1933 reverse with 2 red serial numbers - as they differed from the numbers on the front of the note in question.it appears that scans of two different notes were used.)

 

 

 

 

 

*** Please note: 
Some of the note scans you are implying as being of banknotes belonging to you, or in your possession, are clearly identifable as scans of notes from MY private collection of pre- WWII German inflation banknotes which I still own and have.  Use of my published scans is subject to copyright - however, if the use of the scans is only to indicate you have similar items, I do allow their fair use as illustrations only -  but they should be identified as not being of the actual notes being discussed. 
The scans of the notes from my collection are:

100 Mark - Serial No. D. 7347734

10,000 Mark - Serial No. D. 6143023

1,000 Mark - Serial No. 4265426A

 

 

 

Hundreds of thousands of these notes were printed every day at a time of hyper-inflation in Germany. Some were even used to light the oven or used as wallpaper. They are not valuable and excellent quality examples of these types of notes can be usually be obtained for a few US dollars each.
 
Editor (Numisnet World - Internet Edition)

 

 

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GENERAL INDEX UPDATE.

TASMANIAN NUMISMATIST - INTERNET EDITION' 1996 - June 2007

'NUMISNET WORLD - INTERNET EDITION' July 2007 - 2008

 

http://www.vision.net.au/~pwood/aug03.htm  - 1995 - 1997 (Volumes 1 and 2)

http://www.vision.net.au/~pwood/ept2003.htm  - 1998 - 2000 (Volumes 3, 4 and 5)

http://www.vision.net.au/~pwood/Oct2003.htm  - 2001 - 2002 (Volumes 6 and 7)

http://www.vision.net.au/~pwood/Nov03.htm  - 2003 - to date Nov. (Volume 8 to date Nov,)

http://www.vision.net.au/~pwood/dec2003.htm  - Final 2003 Dec. (Volume 8 final Dec.)

http://www.vision.net.au/~pwood/jan07.htm - 2004 (Volume 9)

http://www.vision.net.au/~pwood/feb07.htm  - 2005 (Volume 10)

http://www.vision.net.au/~pwood/mar07.html - 2006 (Volume 11)

The final Index of the 'Tasmanian Numismatist - Internet Edition' (Volume 12 - Issues 1 - 6) as well as the first Index ( Volume 12 - Issues 7 - 12) of the 'Numisnet World - Internet Edition' can now be seen at:

http://www.vision.net.au/~pwood/dec07.htm - 2007 (Volume 12)

Our Archives can also be accessed (by subject matter) by using the Search Engine on our internet page.

 

'NUMISNET WORLD' - Internet Edition.

Volume 13 – Issues 1 - to date, 2008

 

Issue 1. January 2008:- http://www.vision.net.au/~pwood/jan08.htm

What do you know about Old Spanish Silver Coinage? - A few 'little' bits and pieces of information about mintmarks and assayers initials.

What did 'Santa Numis' Bring You? - Jerry Adams got two nice prezzies to help him with his new numismatic interest in Ancient coinages...

Book Review - "Numismatic Forgery" by Charles M. Larson (2004). - Startling revelations from a world famous forger. (Reviewed by Jerry Adams.)

Around the Traps! - A BIG, BIG year for local medallist, Tasmedals - a bright business forecast by Managing Director, Roger McNeice OAM.

Catching up with Friends! - Greetings from Mike & Petra. - Back in the U.S. Mike Metras tells me that he had written another book.. Details on his website

The Changing Faces of the 'Tasmanian Numismatist' - The 'parting of the ways' between hard-copy and Internet editions only means that parallel roads are now being traveled.

General Index Update - Where to find previous articles in both the 'Tasmanian Numismatist' (1995 - 2007) and 'Numisnet World' (2007 - to date).

 

Issue 2. February 2008:- http://www.vision.net.au/~pwood/feb08.htm

Australia Day 2008 - Editorial Comment

The Glory That Was Rome. -  Roman coins are always waiting to be discovered by collectors. A little bit more trivia to make the road less bumpy!

Numismatic Forgery, Follow-Up - The story of master-forger Mark Hofmann is the stuff movies are made of ....................!!

Miscellaneous Q & A's - Trying to provide a correct answer to an interesting query about a blank penny planchet from 1963.

Editors Notification - Previous casual advertising rates offered to 'Tasmanian Numismatic Society' members and newsletter readers are now null and void. ('Numisnet World' does not intend to solicit paid advertising at this time but will still feature non-commercial numismatic "Wanted Known' requests that comply with our policies and disclaimers.)

 

Issue 3. March 2008:- http://www.vision.net.au/~pwood/mar08.htm

The Tasmanian Numismatic Society's Medals & Awards - Like many other hobby-oriented organisations, the T.N.S. presents rewards for loyalty, service, achievement and dedication to the Society's interests.

The Lockwood Medal - One of Australia's most prestigious numismatic memorial medals, the Arthur J. Lockwood Award (now known as the Lockwood Medal) was first awarded in 1970. It is still awarded, when warranted, through the auspices of the Tasmanian Numismatic Society.  Last awarded 2000.

CBS Report - Abolishing the U.S. Cent - Debates, and battle-lines, are starting to form about the logistical importance of retaining the humble U.S. Cent.

Early Colonial Coinages -  The Australian and the American Colonies had many logistical problems with small change.

 

Issue 4. April 2008:- http://www.vision.net.au/~pwood/april08.htm

Anzac Day 25th April, 2008 - Lest We Forget..

The Remarkable Women of Australian Polymer Currency - A brief profile of some of the fascinating women who have helped forge Australian history.

New Limited Edition Numismatic books, published in 2008, by well-known author, numismatist and collector extraordinaire - Mick Vort-Ronald.

Copies, Counterfeits & Tourist Gimmicks - Roger McNeice OAM. FRNS. alerts us again to the funny things that can get into our collections.

Thomas White and Son - The problem when a replica of an 1855 token, produced for a Tasmanian tourist outlet in 1973, is too good

P.S. - The 'Infamous' 1792 Austrian Ducat - The story of a 'Readers Digest ' advertising gimmick that has gained a place in Oz numismatic history.

Uncut Paper Notes - We live and learn - even if sometimes we need to go back and do a bit of homework - thanks to Judy Shaw

A Few Dates on the Calendar - March - April.  - A reminder of times past.

 

Issue 5. May 2008:- http://www.vision.net.au/~pwood/may08.htm

'Three Cheers - for the Australian Numismatic Dealers Fraternity' -  Where would our local hobbiests be without the 'traveling numismatic Circus'.

Around the Traps - We live and learn. - Since 1996, the 'Australasian Coin & Banknote Magazine' has been a powerful tool for all collectors.

Correction - A small error in the name of an old 1991 Coin Fair venue (the Editor's first 'event' experience) was noted and is now historically correct.

 

Issue 6. June 2008:-

The Intrigue and Enigma of World Banknotes - Strange scripts, and languages, on notes often confound a new collector. Hopefully, a few clues might help!

The Pre-Decimal Coinage of New Zealand Checklist - a numismatic tool for collectors who are finding the issue dates of some coins are confusing.

Just a Friendly Reminder - like most newsletters, certain articles - including illustrations - are copyrighted by the authors. Please ask if you wish to use them.

 

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