Volume 11 Issue 1                                 INTERNET EDITION - Established 1996                                  January 2006


The name 'Tasmanian Numismatist' is used with the permission  of the Executive Committee of the 'Tasmanian Numismatic Society' however, any comments published in this privately produced newsletter do not necessarily reflect the views of the 'Tasmanian Numismatic Society', its Executive Committee or its members. Bearing in mind our public disclaimers,  the Internet links selected by the authors of this  newsletter are usually provided as a complimentary source of reference to the featured article in regard to: (1) Illustrations and, (2) to provide additional important information. 

Any notices of concern to 'Tasmanian Numismatic Society' members will be included in the 'Society Snippets' section.

We trust that this issue of the 'Tasmanian Numismatist' (Internet Edition) newsletter will continue to provide interesting reading.

 

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TASMANIAN NUMISMATIC SOCIETY

Anyone who wishes to apply for membership to the non-profit making organization, and who is prepared to abide by the rules of the Society and its aim of promoting the study and enjoyment of the hobby of numismatics, should contact the following address for an application form and details of subscriptions: 

 

THE SECRETARY.

Tasmanian Numismatic Society.

G. P. O. Box 884J

Hobart. 7001.

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SOCIETY SNIPPETS

WELCOME TO T.N.S. MEMBERS - 2006

Firstly, let us welcome those fellow members of the Tasmanian Numismatic Society to the  2006 'Tasmanian Numismatist - Internet Edition' (Volume 11, Issue 1). Several more of our local members, have advised our Secretary  that they have now joined the high-tech revolution and enjoy the benefits of this form of newsletter.Those members who now have Internet access - and an email address - please advise the T.N.S. Secretary, if they haven't already done so.

Due to the 'free' nature of this newsletter, a special fee of $10.00 p.a. can entitle an applicant to one official  honorary membership and the person is classified as an official Associate Member of the Tasmanian Numismatic Society for 12 months..The Associate still has the majority of standard member benefits - except voting rights. However, it is often the case that the Associate cannot always attend meetings, or take advantage of some local numismatic benefits and social functions organized by the Society; so this small nominal amount is used by the Society to assist with the fixed administration costs that any non-profit Society or association has to meet to keep functioning. Donations are always welcome from members or readers who appreciate the hobby.

If the Associate ever decides to become an active participant, they can upgrade to Full Membership by updating their application and making the adjustment to the current annual subscription fee.

Inquiries for Tasmanian Numismatic Society (Associate Membership) Application Forms  or any other matters pertaining to membership should be directed by email to the T.N.S. Secretary at:  misteeth@bigpond.net.au  (or to  G.P.O. Box 884J, Hobart, Tasmania 7001).

 

EDITOR'S NOTE

As Editor of this privately funded and produced newsletter, I believe in the basic principal of freedom of information - except that of a personal or confidential nature as stipulated in our T.N. disclaimers and specified copyrighted material.*  I also welcome suitable numismatic input to this Internet newsletter in article form (or even an idea that can be developed ) and, whilst we may not be able to immediately publish all articles without some editing if need be, all submissions from Tasmanian Numismatic Society Associate members and other readers will be considered.

*(Refer to the publishing policies of the 'Tasmanian Numismatist - Internet Edition' at the conclusion of this newsletter).

 

2005 DECEMBER BBQ

Those who were able to attend as guests at an informal BYO-BBQ on December 11th 2005 ,at the invitation of Mr & Mrs Roger McNeice of Taroona, can only commiserate with those others who couldn’t get there because of their pre-Christmas commitments

The weather was superb, the location was very pleasant, the food was great and the conversations were invigorating, and, as usual, when even a few numismatists get together, our hobby raised its head and strode to the fore.

Longtime T.N.S. member, Charles Hunt, had brought along several folders of his collection of Tongan bank notes to show this writer - but everyone present was suitably impressed when they saw the range that Charles has accumulated - including dates of issue, replacement notes etc.

Charles’ attention to detail and presentation - and the sheer quality of the product area that he has set his sights on -  is to be commended. if any members wish to avail themselves of Charles' knowledge, he has his own website: http://www.tongan-notes.info/

With a little persuasion, we were even able to have our host, Roger, broadly discuss several new Tasmanian token concepts, that are still only simmering on the back-burner at present, but which may possibly be moving into the planning stage for later in 2006 - but these will be discussed in a later edition when, and if, more specific details are available. However, the emphasis of the BBQ was on relaxation and good company and, fortunately, we had both.

A special ‘Thanks’ to our hostess Mrs.Jill McNeice, for keeping us supplied with that ‘sooper-dooper’ yummy entrée that had our mouths watering prior to lunch. A lovely day was enjoyed by all.

 

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INTERNET EDITION

by Graeme Petterwood © 2005

 

Remember - be astute when you are handed change - not all the wonders of numismatics have been discovered yet - and they don't have to be shiny and new! This edition again features an assortment of  'trivia' that I think is of interest and I trust it will prove educational and entertaining to you as well. 

All or any prices quoted in articles in this newsletter, unless stipulated, are estimates only and they should not be considered to be an offer to sell or purchase the items mentioned or used as illustrations. Please note that the photoscans of numismatic items are usually not to size or scale, but - wherever possible - they are from the authors' own collections or the extensive picture library of the 'Tasmanian Numismatist - Internet Edition'.

Allied Military Tokens in Current Use

Kandahar, Afghanistan

by T.N.S. Member #363, Jerry Adams © 2005

A local architect I have known since he was a summer intern at an architectural office at which both NTCA member Bob Smith and I worked, back in the 80s, is now a Lt. Colonel in the U.S. Army and has been stationed for some time in Afghanistan. 

When Jim *****  first started as "summer help" at Geren Associates Architects in Ft. Worth, he was a university student and a ROTC military cadet at Texas A&M University in College Station.  Jim ***** has always been a gung-ho military guy, and a great production man to have in an architectural firm. 

Later, when I left that firm, and went to VLK architects in Arlington, Jim also came to work for VLK for several years.  All the while he was in the Army reserves, and flew Chinook helicopters.  He was in Desert Storm in the early 90s, and in fact transported in the tables that General Schwarzkopf signed the cease fire with the Iraqi generals.  He eventually left VLK and went to work for another architecture firm in town, where my older brother works, so I still kept in touch with Jim.  I found out that his unit had been called up - and they had left for Afghanistan in December 2004

I emailed him on occasion, but I know from experience that soldiers like to receive hand written letters from home, with photos, bits of newspaper clippings, etc. so I wrote Jim and sent some photos we had taken on a recent trip, and a bumper sticker I had made up, and a little hand written letter, with news of recent local events. I thought I would ask him if the army was still using cardboard tokens at the exchange over there, if he could find some to mail me some. 

 

Earlier style PX Cardboard Tokens (Gift Certificates) used in the Gulf War campaign areas and Afghanistan.

 

On July 12, 2005 a letter arrived for me from Jim, with the "free mail" frank in the upper right corner, and I could see a little bulge in the envelope. 

Sure enough Jim had written me back a nice letter, and enclosed a number of the current cardboard tokens in use by our troops, at Kandahar, Afghanistan. 

I found nine different cardboard tokens, which vary in pictures, denominations and release dates.  All the tokens are in color, and are all 40mm in diameter with the same scene depicted on both sides of the disc. 

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The illustrations of 5, 10 & 25c Gift Certificates shown above includes some of those mentioned amongst the list submitted by the author.

Refer: Desert Vets site: http://www.aafes-pogs.com/

 

Gift Certificates received by Jerry Adams.

1.  (dated) 2004/ (photo silhouette of soldier facing right background of evening sky) /This gift certificate has a retail value of 10˘ and is redeemable at any AAFES facility// AAFES/ 10˘ / Gift Certificate

2.  (dated) 2005[?] / ( montage photos - flags of allies, USA, Great Britain, Australia)/ ALLIES / This gift certificate has a retail value of 25˘ and is redeemable at any AAFES facility// AAFES/ 25˘ / Gift Certificate   (the date of this one is unclear due to the white lettering, the last number of the date is on the white of one flag, appears to be either a 3 or 5) (Illustrated)

3.  (dated) 2005 / (photo rear view of F-15 [?] taking off an aircraft carrier) / This gift certificate has a retail value of 25˘ and is redeemable at any AAFES facility// AAFES/ 25˘ / Gift Certificate (Illustrated)

4.  (dated) 2004 / (photo of 3 soldiers in desert camo with thumbs up)/ Proudly serving / those who serve. / AAFES / This gift certificate has a retail value of 5˘ and is redeemable at any AAFES facility// AAFES/ 5˘ / Gift Certificate

5.  (dated) 2003 / (photo of female soldier raising American flag) / This gift certificate has a retail value of 10˘ and is redeemable at any AAFES facility// AAFES/ 10˘ / Gift Certificate

6.  (dated) 2004 / Operation / Enduring / Freedom / (photo of 2 soldiers in camo with back to camera, one prone and one kneeling, large explosion in distance) / This gift certificate has a retail value of 10˘ and is redeemable at any AAFES facility// AAFES/ 10˘ / Gift Certificate

7.  (dated) 2005 / (photo of front half of Air Force One in flight over Mount Rushmore) / This gift certificate has a retail value of 5˘ and is redeemable at any AAFES facility// AAFES/ 5˘ / Gift Certificate

8.  (dated) 2004 / (photo of 2 servicemen in silver suits & helmets fighting a fire) / This gift certificate has a retail value of 10˘ and is redeemable at any AAFES facility// AAFES/ 10˘ / Gift Certificate

9.  (dated) 2004 / (photo of military Humvee driving through a muddy stream in urban setting) / This gift certificate has a retail value of 10˘ and is redeemable at any AAFES facility// AAFES/ 10˘ / Gift Certificate

The dated U.S. Military Gift Certificates or tokens, with their various series of pictorial depictions, are often offered for sale on internet auction sites e.g. eBay  - and are often advertised by their 'nickname' of POGS*. They are very economically priced as a rule except for some of the older and 'rarer' items.

Article originally featured in "Talkin' Tokens" the journal of the National Token Collectors' Association (NTCA) of America (2005) Republished with permission of the Author.

 

Additional Reference.

Desert Vets Present:  AAFES Pogs Information - Site address: http://www.aafes-pogs.com/

AAFES stands for Army Air Force Exchange Service. They are the Company who runs all the military PX, (Post Exchange) and BX, (Base Exchange) for the military. These are where all service members on any base in the world do their shopping.

*What in the world is a Pog?
The origin of the pog can be traced back to the 1920s in Hawaii. A local fruit drink company bottled its product in glass bottles similar to old-fashioned milk bottles. The bottles were sealed with wax-covered paper disks. The company put different pictures on the disks. The juice was a combination of passion, orange and guava fruit -- hence the name POG. It was the children playing games with the disks that gave them the name.

 

 

THE GALLIPOLI STAR

 "The Star That Never Shone!"

 

The original story of the Gallipoli Star was told in 2002 in the 'Tasmanian Numismist' newsletter as a tribute at the death of the last Gallipoli Anzac, the late Alec Campbell, of Tasmania who died on May 6th 2002. 

Refer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Campbell and also: http://www.vision.net.au/~pwood/May2002.htm

The medal was the culmination of the efforts of Mr. Ross Smith OAM, JP. who has recently emailed an update on his situation in retirement that may be of interest to medal collectors in Australia and/or New Zealand.

"Many thanks for your kind words regarding myself and presentation of the Gallipoli Star Medal in 1990 to the then 200 surviving veterans, Australian and Kiwi, of the Gallipoli campaign. As you know, I retired from the workforce in December 2000 and have been concentrating on designing and manufacturing boards of military memorabilia and commemorative medallions. Also I medal mount and manufacture personal memorabilia boards. Australian Way have just agreed to my next venture for my Melbourne 2006 Commonwealth Games Commemorative medallion to be sold throughout their shopfronts at Australian airports. Also the RNZ RSA have accepted my two (2) designs of boards of military memorabilia to be offered for sale in Kiwi land: ANZAC...LEST WE FORGET; and VIETNAM 1964-1972...The Second ANZAC Adventure. Sometimes I think I should go back to work in order to make a life for myself - too busy to scatch myself! However, I thought that I would update your Society with my current aspects in continuing to educate the youth of Australia in military sacrifice. All the very best in your future endeavours."

Yours in soldiering on,

Ross E. Smith, OAM, JP (ex RSM/WO1)

email: rsm17881@bigpond.net.au

 

AUSTRALIAN PRE-DECIMAL COIN VARIETIES

 

Author, researcher and compiler, T.N.S. Member #343, Ian McConnelly, with 'Australian Pre-Decimal Coin Varieties' 2005

 

As promised in our December issue, I have read through Ian McConnelly's compilation of 'Australian Pre-Decimal Coin Varieties' published by Renniks Publications and would like to submit a brief review for our members and readers. Broadly speaking, it is a book that needs to be bought preferably, but certainly obtained and read, by all collectors of Oz coinage - not just variety and error enthusiasts.

The size of the 96 page glossy-paper book  is  24.5 x 17 cms. which allows for an uncluttered easy to read format. The set-up has been kept very straightforward and simple so that novice or experienced numismatist can pick it up and there should  be no doubt about what is being said. However, a glossary of terms and other explanations have been included for those first-timers who need to start from the very beginning.

An interesting introduction is supplied for each coin denomination - in Ian's own inimitable style - and this lifts this book up from the normal 'dry' style of catalogue into the entertainment class and it is a great example of the enthusiasm that is now evident amongst collectors in this field of numismatics.

Ian has deliberately refrained from giving prices due to the fact that there are still no boundaries to each coin discussed, and, to artificially put a value on something so full of 'variety' is fraught with problems, so, instead he has supplied an indication of the current rarity as he and his colleagues see it - and that will allow the local markets in each area to find their own levels. This area of numismatics will always be a 'work in progress' so it will never get boring!

Renniks have allowed use of their previous catalogue photos of varieties and mint errors to enhance the book and to elaborate on the types of flaws or differences that are out there. As a worthy addition for any numismatic library, it is obvious that the amount of work that has gone into this long-waited-for publication on pre-decimal variety and mint error Australian coinage is absolutely staggering and those acknowledged collectors of note, who have helped Ian by their additional collaboration, are to be commended for their patience and powers of observation. A 'must have' book!

 

'Australian Pre-Decimal Coin Varieties' is now available from Renniks (Email: ianpitt@renniks.com ) or through the 'Australasian Coin & Banknote Magazine'  (Email: bixlives@bigpond.net.au ) or it can be sourced from major numismatic dealers throughout Australia.

Supplies in Tasmania are available from:

 

Tasmedals Pty Ltd
Shop 2, 41-43 Victoria Street
Hobart, Tasmania. 7000
Australia
Phone: Retail Showroom - (03) 6231 5281 - International +61 3 6231 5281

Phone: Office - (03) 6227 8825  Fax: (03) 6227 9898

Email: rogermcneice@tasmedals.com.au

 

The Stamp Place
110 Collins St
Hobart, Tasmania. 7000
Australia

Phone/Fax:  (03) 6224 3536 - International +61 3 6224 3536
Email: theden@tazitiger.com

 

A COMPLIMENTARY BROCHURE REVIEW

AUSTRALIAN NUMISMATIC DEALERS ASSOCIATION (ANDA)

 

Enclosed in the December issue of the 'Australasian Coin and Banknote Magazine' 2005 - 6 Yearbook was a small complimentary brochure produced by the Australian Numismatic Dealers Association (ANDA). Website for ANDA: www.anda.com.au

Titled "Collecting Australian Commonwealth Coins", the brochure is a 'reference to Australia's pre-decimal coinage 1910 - 1964' -  and it is a real little literary gem worthy of a brief mention.

Well-known Australian numismatists, Andrew Crellin from Monetarium Pty. Ltd and Klaus Ford from Klaus Ford Numismatics Pty.Ltd. are two of the major contributors in putting this article together and they should be commended for their efforts. The 16 page brochure gives us a lesson in the history of Australia's unique pre-decimal coinage from its inception in 1910 - 11, it also shows us the time-lines of major denominations, the legend variations, and the few commemorative pieces, and it discusses aspects of each - and, to top it off, a comprehensively explained and illustrated grading section is included - which is excellent in its clarity.

This brochure is not meant to be anything more than what it is - a handy, very condensed and concise, reference to Australia's pre-decimal coinage.  

Check with your local ANDA dealer and see if any additional copies may have been distributed or are available. Well worth having!  Alternatively, check with your newsagent for the 'Australasian Coin and Banknote Magazine (CAB) 2005 - 6 Yearbook and kill two birds with one stone - both are excellent numismatic reading at this time of year.

The highly professional photography and brochure layout was achieved by Mr. John Freestone with the kind permission of Downie's, and Shane Fearnley: SundaySessions (Design and Artwork).

 

 

SO - YOU KNOW THE BASICS - WHAT THEN?

If any of our readers are contemplating buying or selling pre-decimal coins through Internet sources, make sure that any scans are of reasonable quality for buyer or seller to make a fair assessment, and try to keep within the parameters laid down in the ANDA Coin Grading Guide for decision-making and peace of mind. This grading 'line in the sand',-  the 'ANDA Coin Grading Guide' - which is contained in the brochure previously reviewed - will enable us all, dealers and collectors alike, to have a common level to start at, and it should do away with a lot of misunderstanding of what constitutes a particular condition of coin quality.

Some readers may still say that the best grading is purely subjective and is based on 'eye appeal' as the final criteria especially if you are a hobbiest and not up amongst the realms of a numismatic 'investor'. Still, it is more than handy to know what constitutes a quality coin over a 'nice' coin if you have a choice of more than one and the prices are similar. Learning to appreciate grading is one of the corner-stones of numismatics.

Most of us, who are basically hobbiests, often have difficulty when to comes to grading - especially having to accept a grade description that we may disagree with but one that we are led to believe is a professional opinion.

If any of our readers fancy their ability to grade a pre-decimal coin I would appreciate their expertise in helping me to confirm the grading on an old, and a wee bit dilapidated, 1923 halfpenny. (photos untouched, except for re-sizing, shown below).

Send your opinions and comments to the Editor at: pwood@vision.net.au  and I will compare them with the ANDA suggestions and publish the results.

 

    

Australian 1923 King George V Halfpenny - a digital photographic sample for online grading.

What should be the areas of interest (?) - What do you think!

 

The King's Crown

 

The obverse of this coin shows the King's crown as having 6 well-defined Pearls, a reasonable centre Diamond, and it has a full bottom band on the crown, there is a small but old detracting scratch on the Kings's beard plus wear patterns on the cheek and forehead. Are these typical of a circulated coin featuring this monarch? Do these wear marks lessen the 'eye appeal' or would you expect a coin of this age to show a few extra wrinkles?

A well-defined Die crack runs from the tail of the R of REX to the D of F.D. - is this a detracting feature? Could the coin be classed as a Mint error as well?

 

 

 

Please note that there are also several detracting marks on the reverse of this coin - near the O of ONE a shallow sliver of metal is missing - could this be the result of a tiny planchet flaw (?) - and there are several rim knocks of a minor nature and some light, but noticeable, field scratching over the word ONE and under the word PENNY. It may be that a cleaning attempt has been made with a hard object (?)  Are there any other signs of cleaning?

 

 

Look for marks around the features, tike the 3 of 1923, which has a nick on the bottom curve and there are 'wear and tear' dents on other numbers and letters. All these points are worthy of consideration when trying to arrive at an honest grade - so that a fair value can be attributed to the coin.

If it is possible, try to plan ahead! Several requirements are neccessary when grading coins - good light and a good magnitying glass - so, any time you are contemplating buying a quality or high value coin, make sure that both these essential needs are met by the seller or youreslf, otherwise walk away.

Do your homework! The minting history of each coin needs to be considered, as well as its physical attributes, because this also plays an important  part in accurate grading. Some coins have been surrounded by 'myths' over the years and even these 'fables' can be a telling point in evaluating a coin's worth, so don't fall into the greed trap of overgrading - or accepting an overdraded piece - because of the mystique of the date or denomination - it could come back to haunt you. Don't be afraid to ask for an independant opinion and be prepared to justify your position and to question any put to you.

Accuracy, not wishful expectation, is good!

If neccessary, grade both sides of the coin seperately if the quality difference appears acute. The lesser grade should be taken as the negotiating point.

Finally, with any coin that has a high market value, try to check its authenticity or otherwise against other known documentation.

 

Photography: Paul Petterwood T.N.S Member #350

 

MISCELLANEOUS Q & A's

Our Search Facility Reports show that we are still getting a small number of hits on our archives that probably go unanswered.

Due to the fact that some of our very early archives from 1996 - 1999 are now unaccessible except when featured as an 'Encore' article, we have now decided to resurrect our 'Miscellaneous Q & A's' section to try and answer some of our readers' queries - both solicited and unsolicited..

If you do make use of our Search facility for general information and can't find what you seek, please send a brief email to our e-post box at: pwood@vision.net.au Except for authorised email addresses, all personal names and direct contact addresses that may be supplied will be keep anonymous for obvious reasons. 

The most interesting or most frequently asked questions will be answered - to the best of our ability - through these columns in a general manner as well as immediately and directly to the questioner. This is not an offer to professionally evaluate items or an offer to purchase or become directly involved in commercial dealings.

The following email was recently received from an interstate reader.

 

Question - I am a teacher/numismatist/historian living in Queensland. I recently had come to hand a Five shilling token in White metal and a 6d token in a gold composite that seems different from brass - and they are obviously Tasmanian.
There's what I think is a TAC monogram and "Tasmania" in a scroll on the front with the denomination shown on the back.

I have attached a scan of the 5 shilling specimen. They are both holed but it appear to be as part of the manufacturer's process.

I wondered if these had to do with Apple co-ops or similar...can you help? Regards, Vince.

 

     

Commercial Travellers Association (Tasmania) Five Shilling (50 Cents) 24mm Nickel Token #NH 32

(Scan supplied - not to scale)

 

Answer -  Hi Vince, The 5/- (24mm holed Nickel) token as shown in your scan was authorised, in the early to mid 1930's, by the Commercial Travellers Association of Australia on behalf of the Commercial Travellers clubs in the two major cities in Tasmania  for use in a few fund-raising  'cigar/cigarette' machines in the clubs that could be used to offer a 'gamble' to obtain 'free' merchandise or purchase association services. Located in the bar or  'back-rooms' for members' use only, these particular US-made 'fruit' or poker machines were originally geared to take US 5 Cent Nickels - hence the similar sizes produced in the CTA tokens.

The 5/- holed token has a catalogue number #NH 32 as designated by Noel Harper of Hobart in his book 'Tasmanian Passes, Checks & Club Tokens' (published 1985).  Other denominations, with some slight variations of size and design, ranged from:

3d (24mm holed Brass #NH 30),

6d. (21 and 24mm Brass #NH 37 and #NH 26),

1/- (21 and 24mm Copper #NH 38 and #NH 27),

2/- (24mm Nickel - with two variations on the base of the figure 2 - #NH 28 and #NH 29),

2/6 (21mm Aluminium #NH 39).  

Excess profits from these machines were often distributed to selected charitable organisations.

All major CTA clubs - which were city-based -  and many other large associations within Australia had similar token operated poker machines and, in most cases, the token designs had some identifying lettering, design change or privy mark to indicate their origin. Not all were geared to the U.S.nickel size slot type and various metal compositions etc. are often seen

 

Masonic Club of Tasmania 1/6 (15 Cents) Aluminium 27mm holed and unholed tokens #NH 66 and #NH 59


The real reason for the hole in some Tasmanian CTA tokens is not known but some collectors surmise that it may have been a method of storing them separately from the bar coinage, possibly on 'spikes', wire hooks or loops, after the poker machines had been emptied for cash reconcilation purposes at the end of a working day. In some instances, these small change tokens were purchased purely for 'fund-raising', and, in other cases, no cash would be given as change for notes tendered to member patrons at the bar and the tokens had to be used within the premises to obtain services such as counter meals or drinks etc.

Most CTA clubs also had some accommodation and dining facilities for their visiting clientele which could be paid for with tokens and/or cash.

Every token that was not redeemed became a profit for the club and many went away to all parts of Australia with visiting interstate commercial representatives. This practice of obtaining a book profit from a loss of actual specie sold is broadly known in financial circles as 'seignorage'.

However, due to metal shortages, some 'unholed' 6d and 5/- tokens from Western Australia were brought in and used in Tasmania during the early WWII years to cater for local demand. With a counter-stamped letter T struck over the denomination on the back (reverse) the Western Australia tokens were produced with the small letters W and A near the rim on the front (obverse) on both sides of the logo, but the WA - CTA logo lacked the scroll underneath. These WA tokens are all sized at 24mm.and are catalogued as #NH 33, 34 and 35 for the three slightly different 6d brass denomination and #NH 36 for the Aluminium 5/-

Quoted values for the holed Nickel 5/- have been seen on 'bid or buy' Internet auction sites at AUD$30.00 and the Brass 6d between AUD$10 - $20.00 but these prices do obviously flucuate with supply and demand factors and the condition of the individual token..
The face values of these tokens shown as they appear  i.e. the Five shillings (50 Cents) is shown as  5/- , the One Shilling is shown as 1/-, (10 Cents), the Sixpence is shown as 6d. (equivalent to 5 Cents) and 3 Pence (equivalent to 2 1/2 Cents) as 3d., and the Two Shillings and sixpence 2/6 token value was equivalent to 25 Cents.

The machines were eventually banned under the controversial and over-conscientious application of Gaming Acts in all states and most were dismantled and the pieces were either thrown into deep waters or completely trashed in other ways so they couldn't be retrieved and repaired.

The CTA machines were withdrawn from use in Tasmanian in 1938 and quietly disappeared prior to the seize and destroy bans being applied from the early 1940's. The fate of the CTA machines and their tokens is not known, however, the three machines located within the Masonic Club of Tasmania situated at Hobart lasted a little longer, until 1942, when their legality was questioned and they were withdrawn and placed into storage.The machines were eventually sold in 1947 and disappeared.

Years later, a small hoard of assorted face value MC tokens was discovered at their Hobart premises, when it was being cleared out prior to the property sale. The hoard was sorted up and valued, then the assorted packets were sold to the Hobart numismatic community to raise funds one last time for the club.

 

Main Reference:

'Tasmanian Passes, Checks & Club Tokens' (published 1985) by Noel Harper, Dip.Pub. Admin.

 

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'TASMANIAN NUMISMATIST'

(INTERNET EDITION)

The ‘Tasmanian Numismatist’ newsletter is the only official newsletter of the ‘Tasmanian Numismatic Society’ and it is published periodically and distributed by post, or hand delivered, directly to members of the Tasmanian Numismatic Society and selected associates and institutions.

The ‘Tasmanian Numismatist’ (Internet Edition) newsletter is a separate entity and has been provided with space on this privately maintained Internet site and is currently presented free on a monthly basis  with the aim of promoting the hobby of numismatics. All matters pertaining to the T.N.S. are re-published with the permission of the current Executive Committee of the  ‘Tasmanian Numismatic Society. The 'Tasmanian Numismatist' (Internet Edition) newsletter abides by the same basic guidelines suggested for the official 'Tasmanian Numismatist' newsletter. Any literary contributions or relevant and constructive comments regarding numismatics are always welcome.

Please note that all opinions expressed in material published in the 'Tasmanian Numismatist' (Internet Edition) newsletter are those of the authors, and not necessarily those of the ‘Tasmanian Numismatic Society or the Editor. 

 

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The Editor,

'Tasmanian Numismatist' (Internet Edition). 

P.O. Box 10,

Ravenswood. 7250. Tasmania.

Australia.

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